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IMHO, I would love to see us all contribute our Create Page Templates, Art, Effects, etc. so that the program will have a robust set of ready-made elements.

Create is much more useful and user-friendly than its competitors, but it needs a great set of clip art and a full line of Page Templates in order to make it even more useful out-of-the-box.

From the Create Art page, and the Stone Art page, it seems to me that Andrew is open to receiving our submissions for possible inclusion in future releases, or to be made available for download.

Here is a file for you to view in your favourite browser. I have got things a bit large but you should get the idea.

Here is the cre8 file, 2 pages one for each graphic in slice and dice. If anybody would like to scale things down, alter text and graphics please do.

In my opinion the best way to demonstrate Stone Studio's abilities is to use it to build web pages and then allow people to see exactly how you did it. With just the one page I have used Create, Slice and Dice and Pack Up and Go. Within Create I have used round corner box, circle, line (with neon and arrows) and the image well.

With the graphic abilities of people on this forum the rollover graphics could look stunning (far better than the simple ones I have made up). My text also leaves something to be desired. And thinking about it if I had used a master layer in my cre8 doc it would have made each page easier to edit.

Mark.

I don't think you guys are getting the orignal intent of this thread... (which was to list these things for ourselves before going out to the public, a compare and contrast etc.) but, anyway... Did i miss when the instant update from linked images updated in external editors happened???? Wow! Mr. Stone, for us Layout people(as i suppose, web etc...) This is Excellent!!!

By the way, anyone else use Create mainly for print layout?

I'm going to try using it more for web layout (using css?) in a bit, but, Print is more what i use it for.[/u]

I thought I was listing Stone Studios advantages even if it is in a more pictorial way. With the reviews I have read IMO the reviewer has not grasped just how powerful Stone Studio is and what it does. So I am just exploring how to make things more understandable for a potential user. Hopefully the spin off from that will be better reviews. This should give us all some indication if there is anything missing from Stone Studio.



Yes big time. Brochures, postcards, leaflets, manuals, letters, headed paper. In fact everything I print is done by Create. Why? Because it prints where you want it to, how you want it to, when you want it to.

Andrew built page layout for print and web page production into one great product, Create. In my mind both are very much one of the same and I move from one to the other without seeing any divide. This to me is one very big plus. I can take my brochure pages and output very similar ones to the web with very little extra effort. Create handles resampling images to the correct resolution. This makes Create way way out in front as a business solution. As yet I have not found a reviewer that has come close to grasping the brilliance of Stone Studio.

To me page layout for print is just as important as web page production.

Mark.

Yup. I've never touched Create's web features. When it comes to web stuff, I'm a total control freak, and do everything in BBEdit.

A Carbon app! *gasp* That actually does use the same text and color services that Cocoa apps use! *double gasp*

I love Create, and I love BBEdit. They use different APIs, but they're both tops in their areas.[/i]

I'm just thinking about us first before we go to promoting to new users first.


i.e. Quark's item "run around"
How does Create's stand up? As other users will probably be interested, we use it. How do you think it stands up?

Create's abillity to use Colorsyc seamlessly with the OS is great, especially, via the use of multiple colorpickers. (Pantone has one for Web RGB called "Colorist" $49)

By the way, i appreciate the value of layout for print and web simultaneously. That's a big timesaver!! just trying to prompt discussion.


I'm just suggesting before we go to the web or anything can we discuss it here first? We all have different and similar uses, to make note of what others are doing can be a real help. The forums do this in general for us.. but, i'd like to compile a list from current users. (or course any particular notes/corrections/comments would be appreciated from the people of Stone. especially, since i'm not sure im wording things correctly........

Blond - that diagram was so cool, I enhanced it a bit, and made it directly available from the home page (Learn how the apps work together) and from the Stone Studio home page!

Here it is directly:

http://www.stone.com/StoneStudio/explained

Thank you very much!

It would be nice if it were cleaned up just a tad. Cleaner layout = clearer idea. I fear it looks a bit like a Rue Goldberg to the uninitiated even though the fundamental nature of it is a simple wagon-wheel diagram. The three main branches of Create's output could be more apparent, mainly.

i Concur
......hm... poll answering software (cocoa of course) iConcur. LOL sorry for the silly moment. okay, good idea abou tthe three rings...

I pre concurred, that is why I left it in cre8 format as well so that anyone could take the idea to the next level.

Mark.

Yeah, no one's gotten around to it yet, that's all.

I thnk I'll have time this weekend, but every time I say that, I prove myself wrong.

iConcur.1.3b4 Good Job Blond! Now, if only we could start the list? LOL

Let's see.....

Create: Columns and Gutters yes, with support for templates and textboxes.........


Compared to InDesign, Quark, Publisher, MLayout and PhotoLayout, Maybe Mac Publisher(is it still around?), oh, should we include AppleWorks and Microsoft Works? I know InDesign, Quark, and MLayout publish to web. MLayout and PhotoLayout are both Cocoa Apps.

MLayout looks and functions much like a gimpy Quark. PhotoLayout is much like Publisher or something like that.

Create looks very different from all of the others. I think this is a plus, however, some may see it as a problem when it comes to learning curves.

If you look at ilexsoft's site (makers of High Design) you get another way of representing a product to customers. This software is, also, representing its software's capabilities to professional group of customers who are looking for a Mac Alternative to Popular CAD programs (Predominantly Windodws Focused, if im right [Huc?]) Obviously, there's VectorWorks, but having said that, High Design is a Cocoa Application.

http://www.ilexsoft.com/highdesign/organize.html


I would also take a look at Design Intuition. Although i think their site is less organized. http://www.gizmolab.com/software/

Whelp, i'm off to start the day...