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 Post subject: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:48 am 
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I read that the developer from Pangea Software said he'd made more money since September 2008 than he had in his 20 years of programming for the Mac, all due to his iPhone apps. He also said he didn't even want to program for the Mac anymore because it wasn't worth his time -- or words to that effect.

The Stone iPhone apps appear to be doing quite well also, and I'm afraid you might put aside these other applications that I love so much, just like the Pangea developer. That's not going to happen, right? You like us all too much to do that, right? I mean, we're a family, a big happy creating, imaginating, videating family! Families stick together! Yes, they do!

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I'm making tons of money in the iPhone market, but I'd be a fool to neglect my 20 years of hard work to make the Stone Works.

The iPhone could be a flash in the pan! I'm definitely fixing any bugs that come up in our mac products - if you have one, be sure to submit it to me in a way that I can easily duplicate it which makes it very easy to fix!


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Nope, no bugs for me. Just wanted to feel reassured. Thanks.

I am glad that you are making tons of money. You deserve it. Too bad you're raking it all in now, when the government is so busy taking it all away and giving it to those who DON'T deserve it. Oh, I think that's another forum.

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andrew wrote:
I'm making tons of money in the iPhone market, but I'd be a fool to neglect my 20 years of hard work to make the Stone Works.


I'm finding this statement a little ironic now, because it seems as though that is just what has happened. No updates on any Stone apps since August 2008, no responses anymore to forum questions, there is even spam in the forums! It's like a ghost town here. How do we respond to the newbies asking questions about the Stone apps? Do we encourage them to go ahead and spend the money? I don't think so.

We haven't even gotten a confirmed Snow Leopard update. I'm using Snow Leopard and my Stone apps are still working, but I have just run across an issue with the JPGs that Create makes, and they can't be used with BannerZest Pro. PNG files work fine, but the JPGs don't. In a lengthy email exchange with Aquafadas, and after many tests, this is the conclusion: "When BZ asked for the file Type of your pictures, it logged 'gepj' (jpeg backwards)." I did tests with several other graphics applications, and the JPGs produced all worked fine with BZ. Only the Create JPGs failed, and it was only the JPGs, not the PNGs.

I'm not expecting a response or a fix for this. Andrew Stone hasn't even visited the forum since September 23, 2009. No, I'm just pointing it out for posterity. Maybe somebody will buy the Stone Mac apps and set about fixing a couple of things and adding some of the features that have been requested. It's a shame to let them sit like this, without any sign of activity in the development corner.

As for me, I will begin changing my work habits, albeit with a heavy heart. I'll continue to use the Stone apps as long as I can, but I will be actively looking for other apps that will take their places. With all the bundles in the past couple of years, I probably already have applications on my computer that can handle whatever I've been throwing at Create, but I haven't really been looking. I will now.

I've been a staunch supporter of Create for the past five years, and yes, I've gotten my money's worth with the lifetime of free updates; but maybe if there were paid updates, the Mac apps would not now be treated like the poor relations to the iPhone apps.

If I'm off base here, let me know. Anybody. I would gladly eat my words for some sign of life in these applications.

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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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I'm feelin' you, Robin. I realize that you have to go where the demand takes you, but I've been like you... pushing the Stone apps... great bang for the buck, great developer, great policies, etc. I just wish things were a little more lively in this camp. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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Yep... only tumbleweeds rolling by. It still works for the most part but a little love would be nice... even if we had to pay.

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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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Right you are fink!
Sure hope Andrew gives us some news.

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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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ugh.... does that mean im on a bandwagon of sorts? recently, got laid off.. and persuing my own art business with more ... zest. collecting some unemployment, while looking for some other work and taking the time to recreate myself (i sure hope that doesn't make me one of the one's who "don't deserve it"....) I've had some snaffu's in the past... but, most were rectified. I've made lots of suggestions and was decently active in the forums... Even approached a few printers about buying Create themselves! LOL oh well... we'll see what happens... a mini version... and an updated "time equals money" for the iphone and ipad would be welcome ....


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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:18 pm 
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I am more than a little amazed at how many posts remain UNANSWERED on this site.

I was told that for iMaginator that I would have life time updates .... which now it turns out to be the life of interest by the developer ...
and nothing more.

No updates for iMaginator for Snow Leopard. Posts remain unanswered ... yuppers the iPhone apps sure must be where the money is nowadays .... how sad to abandon the people who paid years ago and leave them adrift.


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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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 Post subject: Re: Stone Applications Forever and Ever
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how about a simplified "Create for iPhone"?, "Time Equals Money" for iPhone, "Imaginator for iPhone"
how about, "Create for iPhone/iPad/Mobile" able to connect to served Library Resources (and Templates!) for a REAL creative office environment? How about a "Time Equals Money Server" that connects to the other apps (recognizing work done on a file...[does that sound like Lion?]... or recognizes groups... or posts attendance, work time, etc to a Company server? Or pagination [HP does it in their printers] or a galley view to be able to see how the document is laid out ( connecting, to a server for collaboration)... to Create think these are things that would help the Stone Apps live Forever.... idk... just me t hinking out loud...


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memphisbird wrote:
andrew wrote:
I'm making tons of money in the iPhone market, but I'd be a fool to neglect my 20 years of hard work to make the Stone Works.


I'm finding this statement a little ironic now, because it seems as though that is just what has happened. No updates on any Stone apps since August 2008, no responses anymore to forum questions, there is even spam in the forums! It's like a ghost town here. How do we respond to the newbies asking questions about the Stone apps? Do we encourage them to go ahead and spend the money? I don't think so.

We haven't even gotten a confirmed Snow Leopard update. I'm using Snow Leopard and my Stone apps are still working, but I have just run across an issue with the JPGs that Create makes, and they can't be used with BannerZest Pro. PNG files work fine, but the JPGs don't. In a lengthy email exchange with Aquafadas, and after many tests, this is the conclusion: "When BZ asked for the file Type of your pictures, it logged 'gepj' (jpeg backwards)." I did tests with several other graphics applications, and the JPGs produced all worked fine with BZ. Only the Create JPGs failed, and it was only the JPGs, not the PNGs.

I'm not expecting a response or a fix for this. Andrew Stone hasn't even visited the forum since September 23, 2009. No, I'm just pointing it out for posterity. Maybe somebody will buy the Stone Mac apps and set about fixing a couple of things and adding some of the features that have been requested. It's a shame to let them sit like this, without any sign of activity in the development corner.

As for me, I will begin changing my work habits, albeit with a heavy heart. I'll continue to use the Stone apps as long as I can, but I will be actively looking for other apps that will take their places. With all the bundles in the past couple of years, I probably already have applications on my computer that can handle whatever I've been throwing at Create, but I haven't really been looking. I will now.

I've been a staunch supporter of Create for the past five years, and yes, I've gotten my money's worth with the lifetime of free updates; but maybe if there were paid updates, the Mac apps would not now be treated like the poor relations to the iPhone apps.

If I'm off base here, let me know. Anybody. I would gladly eat my words for some sign of life in these applications.



Very well said ... when I first found iMaginator I was thrilled. I could do a ton of stuff quickly and easily.. then when I started doing upgrades on Mac OSs over the course of a few years things started to go haywire... I mean really buggy with iMaginator.

That forced me to look for alternatives to iMaginator, like Gimp which is *free*, Painter which is about $500. I was determined not to have to pay a GRAND PLUS PLUGINs for PhotoShop, but honestly I can see why people do it. I found PixelMator for Mac which was about $80, and a few other programs each under $100 which do wonderful things and meanwhile iMaginator still does things very easily but no longer far ahead of other applications.

Perhaps the developers know that there are so many reasonably priced digital-manipulation softwares they they have gone the way of many folks and just worked with iPhone Apps.

Apple sure must have some sweet deal for those designers to be able to draw them away from the people who were loyal in the first place and the small companies from which they got started. This might be a sign of the times, but I think it will be temporary ... there are plenty of creative minds that will tire of the iPhone and move back to creating for artistic usage rather than just for the buck.

Neglect sounds more like abandonment for greener pastures ...

Very disappointed in the "lifetime" updates for iMaginator ... must be the "lifetime of loss of interest" warranty.


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